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	<title>Comments on: Case on Court-Ordered Bed Rest Highlights Reproductive Rights Concerns for Pregnant Women</title>
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		<title>By: caffeineadddict</title>
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		<dc:creator>caffeineadddict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It makes me wonder about all the non-pregnant people not following the medical advice of their doctor’s for things like diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure…because that, I feel, can have just as devastating an outcome.&quot;

Ummmm, yes it can, but it also might not. It&#039;s a common tendency amongst many in the medical profession to spell out the worst case scenario ( which i get is important!), but then pretend scare tactics or our larger risk culture isn&#039;t influential. I think what we need to be careful of is implying that these &quot;conditions&quot; are not culturally mediated or (re)created- as though medicine merely identifies and objectively treats them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It makes me wonder about all the non-pregnant people not following the medical advice of their doctor’s for things like diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure…because that, I feel, can have just as devastating an outcome.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ummmm, yes it can, but it also might not. It&#8217;s a common tendency amongst many in the medical profession to spell out the worst case scenario ( which i get is important!), but then pretend scare tactics or our larger risk culture isn&#8217;t influential. I think what we need to be careful of is implying that these &#8220;conditions&#8221; are not culturally mediated or (re)created- as though medicine merely identifies and objectively treats them.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not right for anybody to be forced to do something simply because one doctor&#039;s ego is too big to take a conflicting opinion. From another version of the story that I read, this woman wanted a second opinion. It&#039;s the same thing most people would ask for before undergoing major surgery. Should a doctor be able to take them to court, strap them down on a table and cut them open against their will? No. The courts were wrong here. If I were her I&#039;d sue everybody involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not right for anybody to be forced to do something simply because one doctor&#8217;s ego is too big to take a conflicting opinion. From another version of the story that I read, this woman wanted a second opinion. It&#8217;s the same thing most people would ask for before undergoing major surgery. Should a doctor be able to take them to court, strap them down on a table and cut them open against their will? No. The courts were wrong here. If I were her I&#8217;d sue everybody involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fetal death was not caused by the woman&#039;s resistance.  Henci&#039;s comments are correct...there is no evidence that bedrest stops preterm labor.  It&#039;s appalling that the court could make such mandates without clearly ascertaining the current research results on this and so many other topics on which they have ruled on behalf of pregnant women...or so they say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fetal death was not caused by the woman&#8217;s resistance.  Henci&#8217;s comments are correct&#8230;there is no evidence that bedrest stops preterm labor.  It&#8217;s appalling that the court could make such mandates without clearly ascertaining the current research results on this and so many other topics on which they have ruled on behalf of pregnant women&#8230;or so they say.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m appalled that she was &quot;forced&quot; to stay in the hospital; but I can also understand the doctors concern.  The baby was unfortunately already dead by the time he/she was to be born-so it had they had good reason to be so concerned as to put her on such extreme bed rest.  This woman was in a tough spot, because her lifestyle didn&#039;t really allow her to make that choice.  The current &quot;daycare qualifications&quot; for women who need assistance are not good enough.  It takes a village to raise a child, but there is little help outside, and in so many cases within a family level.  I had a similar case of bed rest, where my son decided he was ready to face the world at 6.5 months into my pregnancy-I was placed on home bed rest-and was skeptical because I had read the evidence was inconclusive.  However, all 4 times I would try to get out of bed rest and even do something small, like make myself a sandwich-I would start going into labor again.  He was born at exactly 7 months-I had gotten up for about 15 mins. to stretch my legs, and that was enough for his foot and part of the cord to proliferate.  Thankfully, because I was already at the hospital he was born healthy, though small.  I&#039;m lucky that my son survived-but I do feel bed rest was necessary-at least in my case.  Luckily-I also had the support of my grandparents to take care of my oldest son-who&#039;d just started kindergarten that year-and moved me in with them so they could help me.  I think if this woman had other resources out there to help her with time off from work (why isn&#039;t maternity leave applicable at every job?) and her children, it could have made a difference in the outcome.  The government, which isn&#039;t really apt to make medical decisions, shouldn&#039;t have been able to step in and force her to stay in the hospital.  This is a sensitive case, but the death of the fetus shows that we need more research into high-risk prenatal care and more assistance to family and mothers.  Not hospital/government interference and rule.  This story is both saddening and startling; but it clearly proves it&#039;s time for research and change.  This is a sign of what federally regulated hospital care can do, coupled with a lack of research/study into this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m appalled that she was &#8220;forced&#8221; to stay in the hospital; but I can also understand the doctors concern.  The baby was unfortunately already dead by the time he/she was to be born-so it had they had good reason to be so concerned as to put her on such extreme bed rest.  This woman was in a tough spot, because her lifestyle didn&#8217;t really allow her to make that choice.  The current &#8220;daycare qualifications&#8221; for women who need assistance are not good enough.  It takes a village to raise a child, but there is little help outside, and in so many cases within a family level.  I had a similar case of bed rest, where my son decided he was ready to face the world at 6.5 months into my pregnancy-I was placed on home bed rest-and was skeptical because I had read the evidence was inconclusive.  However, all 4 times I would try to get out of bed rest and even do something small, like make myself a sandwich-I would start going into labor again.  He was born at exactly 7 months-I had gotten up for about 15 mins. to stretch my legs, and that was enough for his foot and part of the cord to proliferate.  Thankfully, because I was already at the hospital he was born healthy, though small.  I&#8217;m lucky that my son survived-but I do feel bed rest was necessary-at least in my case.  Luckily-I also had the support of my grandparents to take care of my oldest son-who&#8217;d just started kindergarten that year-and moved me in with them so they could help me.  I think if this woman had other resources out there to help her with time off from work (why isn&#8217;t maternity leave applicable at every job?) and her children, it could have made a difference in the outcome.  The government, which isn&#8217;t really apt to make medical decisions, shouldn&#8217;t have been able to step in and force her to stay in the hospital.  This is a sensitive case, but the death of the fetus shows that we need more research into high-risk prenatal care and more assistance to family and mothers.  Not hospital/government interference and rule.  This story is both saddening and startling; but it clearly proves it&#8217;s time for research and change.  This is a sign of what federally regulated hospital care can do, coupled with a lack of research/study into this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Henci Goer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henci Goer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony of this is that, like much of conventional obstetric management, bedrest to prevent miscarriage is both useless and harmful. Here is the conclusion of a Cochrane systematic review on the topic:

&quot;Authors&#039; conclusions: There is no evidence, either supporting or refuting the use of bed rest at home or in hospital, to prevent preterm birth. Although bed rest in hospital or at home is widely used as the first step of treatment, there is no evidence that this practice could be beneficial. Due to the potential adverse effects that bed rest could have on women and their families, and the increased costs for the healthcare system, clinicians should not routinely advise women to rest in bed to prevent preterm birth. Potential benefits and harms should be discussed with women facing an increased risk of preterm birth. Appropriate research is mandatory. Future trials should evaluate both the effectiveness of bed rest, and the effectiveness of the prescription of bed rest, to prevent preterm birth.&quot;

http://www.mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD003581/frame.html

In other words, an obstetrician&#039;s recommendation has now achieved the status of law without any consideration that it is at best, fallible, and at worst, dangerous. And, of course, even if the advice were correct, the principle that women can be forced to submit to invasive and harmful medical interventions on behalf of their unborn baby makes them no more than containers for something more precious than they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony of this is that, like much of conventional obstetric management, bedrest to prevent miscarriage is both useless and harmful. Here is the conclusion of a Cochrane systematic review on the topic:</p>
<p>&#8220;Authors&#8217; conclusions: There is no evidence, either supporting or refuting the use of bed rest at home or in hospital, to prevent preterm birth. Although bed rest in hospital or at home is widely used as the first step of treatment, there is no evidence that this practice could be beneficial. Due to the potential adverse effects that bed rest could have on women and their families, and the increased costs for the healthcare system, clinicians should not routinely advise women to rest in bed to prevent preterm birth. Potential benefits and harms should be discussed with women facing an increased risk of preterm birth. Appropriate research is mandatory. Future trials should evaluate both the effectiveness of bed rest, and the effectiveness of the prescription of bed rest, to prevent preterm birth.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD003581/frame.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD003581/frame.html?referer=');">http://www.mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD003581/frame.html</a></p>
<p>In other words, an obstetrician&#8217;s recommendation has now achieved the status of law without any consideration that it is at best, fallible, and at worst, dangerous. And, of course, even if the advice were correct, the principle that women can be forced to submit to invasive and harmful medical interventions on behalf of their unborn baby makes them no more than containers for something more precious than they are.</p>
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		<title>By: mrs spock</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrs spock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 22:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could have sworn I&#039;ve heard of research showing that bedrest does not necessarily prevent pre-term labor. Though where I read it confounds me at the moment.

As someone who has a toddler and a full-time job at a company where the promise of a permanent position is precarious at the moment, I can imagine the difficulty she faced with the prospect of possibly 15 weeks of bedrest, followed by 6-8 weeks postpartum recovery. I could not afford day care for my son without working, and am only allowed to accrue 4 weeks of PTO total. FMLA only covers you for 12 weeks (and many of that would be unpaid). Months of bed rest, whether or not it is indicated (and it may very well have been in this case), would be a catastrophe for the average family. 

If she had a solid support behind her- affordable and safe child care, and guaranteed income during a long illness, would this situation even have arisen? How terrible this woman felt forced to choose between the child she carried and the family that depended on her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could have sworn I&#8217;ve heard of research showing that bedrest does not necessarily prevent pre-term labor. Though where I read it confounds me at the moment.</p>
<p>As someone who has a toddler and a full-time job at a company where the promise of a permanent position is precarious at the moment, I can imagine the difficulty she faced with the prospect of possibly 15 weeks of bedrest, followed by 6-8 weeks postpartum recovery. I could not afford day care for my son without working, and am only allowed to accrue 4 weeks of PTO total. FMLA only covers you for 12 weeks (and many of that would be unpaid). Months of bed rest, whether or not it is indicated (and it may very well have been in this case), would be a catastrophe for the average family. </p>
<p>If she had a solid support behind her- affordable and safe child care, and guaranteed income during a long illness, would this situation even have arisen? How terrible this woman felt forced to choose between the child she carried and the family that depended on her.</p>
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		<title>By: Labor Nurse, CNM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Labor Nurse, CNM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh...very unfortunate on so many aspects.  How often is this sort of thing happening?  We seem to be hearing more about pregnant women being court ordered to follow the &quot;advice&quot; of their obstetrician- it&#039;s either becoming more prevalent or the media is just hopping onto this &quot;trend&quot;.

When I hear about this sort of thing- women (particularly pregnant women) not following medical advice- it makes me wonder about all the non-pregnant people not following the medical advice of their doctor&#039;s for things like diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure...because that, I feel, can have just as devastating an outcome.  I can already hear the arguments that with diabetes or high blood pressure in say, a 55 year old man, doesn&#039;t involve an innocent fetus.  However, uncontrolled chronic disease ultimately could cause harm to the individual&#039;s body- and isn&#039;t that the same for a woman and &lt;i&gt;her&lt;/i&gt; body?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh&#8230;very unfortunate on so many aspects.  How often is this sort of thing happening?  We seem to be hearing more about pregnant women being court ordered to follow the &#8220;advice&#8221; of their obstetrician- it&#8217;s either becoming more prevalent or the media is just hopping onto this &#8220;trend&#8221;.</p>
<p>When I hear about this sort of thing- women (particularly pregnant women) not following medical advice- it makes me wonder about all the non-pregnant people not following the medical advice of their doctor&#8217;s for things like diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure&#8230;because that, I feel, can have just as devastating an outcome.  I can already hear the arguments that with diabetes or high blood pressure in say, a 55 year old man, doesn&#8217;t involve an innocent fetus.  However, uncontrolled chronic disease ultimately could cause harm to the individual&#8217;s body- and isn&#8217;t that the same for a woman and <i>her</i> body?</p>
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